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		<title>By: Guen</title>
		<link>http://blog.pradprathivi.com/2009/07/07/whats-in-a-number/comment-page-1/#comment-3339</link>
		<dc:creator>Guen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 50/50 on folks with names like that.

It&#039;s not just the numbers on the end of names that can throw you off, but the ones who try to use l33t sp34k or mix and match capital &amp; lower case letters to try and get attention. Saw someone the other day who was named &#039;D3MoN&#039; (which uses both strategies, ugh) and I just couldn&#039;t get myself to take the guy seriously.

These days, though, if it&#039;s simply a name like Lilly&#039;s or Gany&#039;s I don&#039;t mind. It&#039;s the &#039;sexyluva69&#039; and the &#039;CanYouHearMe Snoring&#039; (real Av name!) ones that make me groan. I know that it&#039;s your world, your imagination but if you want to do anything in SL like designing or some such, you may wanna make an alt with a more &quot;grown up&quot; name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 50/50 on folks with names like that.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just the numbers on the end of names that can throw you off, but the ones who try to use l33t sp34k or mix and match capital &amp; lower case letters to try and get attention. Saw someone the other day who was named &#8216;D3MoN&#8217; (which uses both strategies, ugh) and I just couldn&#8217;t get myself to take the guy seriously.</p>
<p>These days, though, if it&#8217;s simply a name like Lilly&#8217;s or Gany&#8217;s I don&#8217;t mind. It&#8217;s the &#8216;sexyluva69&#8242; and the &#8216;CanYouHearMe Snoring&#8217; (real Av name!) ones that make me groan. I know that it&#8217;s your world, your imagination but if you want to do anything in SL like designing or some such, you may wanna make an alt with a more &#8220;grown up&#8221; name.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilly25 Connolly</title>
		<link>http://blog.pradprathivi.com/2009/07/07/whats-in-a-number/comment-page-1/#comment-3341</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilly25 Connolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Sachi, I put two pics in your Flickr group :)) TY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Sachi, I put two pics in your Flickr group <img src='http://blog.pradprathivi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) TY</p>
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		<title>By: Bluegum</title>
		<link>http://blog.pradprathivi.com/2009/07/07/whats-in-a-number/comment-page-1/#comment-3337</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluegum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...surprised to be told when i started sl that its a sign of a sub&quot;...

I didn&#039;t know that either,  but I&#039;ll bet a lot of people are going to be making even more judgements about people based on their names now.

I&#039;m also guessing that noone told Forceme Silverspar before she chose her name too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;surprised to be told when i started sl that its a sign of a sub&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know that either,  but I&#8217;ll bet a lot of people are going to be making even more judgements about people based on their names now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also guessing that noone told Forceme Silverspar before she chose her name too.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilly25 Connolly</title>
		<link>http://blog.pradprathivi.com/2009/07/07/whats-in-a-number/comment-page-1/#comment-3360</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilly25 Connolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, firstly i would like to thank Prad for this article :)) really..
Now all your comments are interesting some very true and some a bit unfair in my view,I know some people also and their reaction is just like i could think should be :)))so a bit unfair because.. i started SL in 2007 without to know what it was.. I wanted be named Lilly + an Irish name, so i did find Lilly Connolly, but Linden didnt let me do (i dunno why because at the end just one Lilly Connolly is there) so i added the 25 after my Lilly.. I spend the two first years without issue with that, i was discovering the &#039;game&#039; and all i did could be done with my &#039;25&#039;.. During a time LInden allowed people to change something in name or even the complete name for 250USD, but no more now, now that i need it.. i have started Modeling in April, and i must say that i have never seen a model on runway with a number in name.. All my friends in SL call me lilly, just some people viviting my pub say sometimes hello Lilly25... I have read on a notecard in an agency that the name was important also, but in modeling should not be the skills, the appearance, the reliability and how is the person which count ?? I have seen some name in modeling which looked so strange to me, association of word with a special meaning, why this doesnt annoy creator ?? so yes somewhere its discrimination or stupidity (sorry to say).. the most important for me in SL is people behind the screen not their name or color or how they wear, but rather how they think !!.. I will not do an alt for fashion industry, because i have an SL life with a lot of friends and contacts and all know me with this name.. and also because its much more than 50 usd to buy again all my inventory, its two years and half of purchase there so it s not nothing,it&#039;s also for example in a lot of application they ask for avis at least 3 month or 6, so.. i should lost some months just because of a &#039;25&#039;.. People like me for who i am not for my lovely name.. So Aleida as you want, swafette thank you very much, and Sachi i have some skins from you and i really love them :)) and kai your name fit you marvelously. In all cases all your comment show that this subject is interesting for maybe more than me, if not you will have not reacted.. So thank you all and again thank you Prad Bisous...:))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, firstly i would like to thank Prad for this article <img src='http://blog.pradprathivi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) really..<br />
Now all your comments are interesting some very true and some a bit unfair in my view,I know some people also and their reaction is just like i could think should be <img src='http://blog.pradprathivi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ))so a bit unfair because.. i started SL in 2007 without to know what it was.. I wanted be named Lilly + an Irish name, so i did find Lilly Connolly, but Linden didnt let me do (i dunno why because at the end just one Lilly Connolly is there) so i added the 25 after my Lilly.. I spend the two first years without issue with that, i was discovering the &#8216;game&#8217; and all i did could be done with my &#8217;25&#8242;.. During a time LInden allowed people to change something in name or even the complete name for 250USD, but no more now, now that i need it.. i have started Modeling in April, and i must say that i have never seen a model on runway with a number in name.. All my friends in SL call me lilly, just some people viviting my pub say sometimes hello Lilly25&#8230; I have read on a notecard in an agency that the name was important also, but in modeling should not be the skills, the appearance, the reliability and how is the person which count ?? I have seen some name in modeling which looked so strange to me, association of word with a special meaning, why this doesnt annoy creator ?? so yes somewhere its discrimination or stupidity (sorry to say).. the most important for me in SL is people behind the screen not their name or color or how they wear, but rather how they think !!.. I will not do an alt for fashion industry, because i have an SL life with a lot of friends and contacts and all know me with this name.. and also because its much more than 50 usd to buy again all my inventory, its two years and half of purchase there so it s not nothing,it&#8217;s also for example in a lot of application they ask for avis at least 3 month or 6, so.. i should lost some months just because of a &#8217;25&#8242;.. People like me for who i am not for my lovely name.. So Aleida as you want, swafette thank you very much, and Sachi i have some skins from you and i really love them <img src='http://blog.pradprathivi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) and kai your name fit you marvelously. In all cases all your comment show that this subject is interesting for maybe more than me, if not you will have not reacted.. So thank you all and again thank you Prad Bisous&#8230;:))</p>
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		<title>By: sachi Vixen</title>
		<link>http://blog.pradprathivi.com/2009/07/07/whats-in-a-number/comment-page-1/#comment-3342</link>
		<dc:creator>sachi Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.flickr.com/groups/adamnevemodels/

Tell your friend to put some pics there occasionally I hook people out (Ozzy and Tigre are about to get a call) for posters in the store. If she doesn&#039;t have any of my skins she can always take some pics using demo so I can see the potential. I usually provide what I want them to wear anyway.</description>
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<p>Tell your friend to put some pics there occasionally I hook people out (Ozzy and Tigre are about to get a call) for posters in the store. If she doesn&#8217;t have any of my skins she can always take some pics using demo so I can see the potential. I usually provide what I want them to wear anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivey Deschanel</title>
		<link>http://blog.pradprathivi.com/2009/07/07/whats-in-a-number/comment-page-1/#comment-3353</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivey Deschanel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your friend is interested in a live model position have her apply at my place. I don&#039;t discriminate based on name, color, animal/robot parts, size etc. As long as the avatar is attractive, looks over 18, can put outfits together and does the job, none of those things matter to me. I especially love extreme looks. Sorry but I do my own ad pics lol. I&#039;m the only model I can find at 5 am on a Tuesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your friend is interested in a live model position have her apply at my place. I don&#8217;t discriminate based on name, color, animal/robot parts, size etc. As long as the avatar is attractive, looks over 18, can put outfits together and does the job, none of those things matter to me. I especially love extreme looks. Sorry but I do my own ad pics lol. I&#8217;m the only model I can find at 5 am on a Tuesday.</p>
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		<title>By: Diz Strangelove</title>
		<link>http://blog.pradprathivi.com/2009/07/07/whats-in-a-number/comment-page-1/#comment-3340</link>
		<dc:creator>Diz Strangelove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s two sorts of ways people think about logging into a program. Accounts and identities.

Some folks (oldschool RP crowd, some gamers, etc) look at themselves as filling out an identity when faced with the &#039;character generation&#039; process, something they use to present themselves and also judge those around them. Other folks just wanted an easy account name to remember.

The latter crowd didn&#039;t mean harm by it, they&#039;re just... new to the culture, as it were.

For better or worse, the &#039;We&#039;re From The Internets&#039; people look at numbers in names (or businesses with yahoo and gmail email addresses for that matter) as a sign of unprofessionalism or just sheer amateurism. Not to be taken seriously.

I&#039;m not innocent of this and it&#039;s not my intent, but I also don&#039;t see it going away. I see it becoming more widespread, to be honest.

As the virtual economy becomes more meaningful, having an &#039;unpresentable&#039; username is going to hinder you from getting very far in it as facial tattoos might in the real one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s two sorts of ways people think about logging into a program. Accounts and identities.</p>
<p>Some folks (oldschool RP crowd, some gamers, etc) look at themselves as filling out an identity when faced with the &#8216;character generation&#8217; process, something they use to present themselves and also judge those around them. Other folks just wanted an easy account name to remember.</p>
<p>The latter crowd didn&#8217;t mean harm by it, they&#8217;re just&#8230; new to the culture, as it were.</p>
<p>For better or worse, the &#8216;We&#8217;re From The Internets&#8217; people look at numbers in names (or businesses with yahoo and gmail email addresses for that matter) as a sign of unprofessionalism or just sheer amateurism. Not to be taken seriously.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not innocent of this and it&#8217;s not my intent, but I also don&#8217;t see it going away. I see it becoming more widespread, to be honest.</p>
<p>As the virtual economy becomes more meaningful, having an &#8216;unpresentable&#8217; username is going to hinder you from getting very far in it as facial tattoos might in the real one.</p>
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		<title>By: Allegory Malaprop</title>
		<link>http://blog.pradprathivi.com/2009/07/07/whats-in-a-number/comment-page-1/#comment-3338</link>
		<dc:creator>Allegory Malaprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting social experiment would be for two similarly outfitted (skin/shape/hair/etc.) avatars to both try to break into the modeling agency, one with numbers, one with a more &quot;reasonable&quot; name.

The reality may in fact be that &quot;everybody&quot; wants to be a model, and anyone can be (after all, a couple of clicks and you&#039;re perfectly outfitted), that there is simply far too much competition and too few legitimate agencies, and neither avatar would find it as easy as she thinks it is to break in (and, from stories from other aspiring models, I would say this is more likely the case).  In fact, the only thing that makes one person stand apart from another (you can always have a list given to you of things to acquire, after all) is your name.  And agencies may find names with numbers, quite simply, unprofessional- if they&#039;ve got a number of applicants for a single position who seem qualified, it&#039;s an easy way to start trimming people from the pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting social experiment would be for two similarly outfitted (skin/shape/hair/etc.) avatars to both try to break into the modeling agency, one with numbers, one with a more &#8220;reasonable&#8221; name.</p>
<p>The reality may in fact be that &#8220;everybody&#8221; wants to be a model, and anyone can be (after all, a couple of clicks and you&#8217;re perfectly outfitted), that there is simply far too much competition and too few legitimate agencies, and neither avatar would find it as easy as she thinks it is to break in (and, from stories from other aspiring models, I would say this is more likely the case).  In fact, the only thing that makes one person stand apart from another (you can always have a list given to you of things to acquire, after all) is your name.  And agencies may find names with numbers, quite simply, unprofessional- if they&#8217;ve got a number of applicants for a single position who seem qualified, it&#8217;s an easy way to start trimming people from the pool.</p>
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		<title>By: valentina kendal</title>
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		<dc:creator>valentina kendal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will admit I agree with Heloise and Vaughan.  Perhaps because in the back of my mind &#039;Val78&#039; calls to mind &#039;sexygurl4u&#039; or &#039;sex24/7&#039; and I tend not to take that person as seriously.  In the same way I would avoid someone with an AV name or appearance obviously meant to cause offense or call attention to themselves - why risk drama?  That&#039;s what prejudice is in either world - you make judgement calls about all people with some characteristic based on your previous experience of a few people with that characteristic.  I don&#039;t like it, but I do it, I think because I know the person *did* choose that name, unlike RL factors that are out of people&#039;s control.

As to the modeling, watching two friends of mine struggle with the same thing, I came away with the impression that the way to succeed in SL modeling is to be friends with the store or agency owner, or pay money to go to one of the schools that claims they will place you.  Freelance modeling takes a huge time commitment and is not often successful, from what I saw.  I would think that if your friend *is* a nice person, in the end she wasn&#039;t discriminated against b/c of the numbers, but rather she lost out to people who play the game better or are more connected (just like RL too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will admit I agree with Heloise and Vaughan.  Perhaps because in the back of my mind &#8216;Val78&#8242; calls to mind &#8216;sexygurl4u&#8217; or &#8216;sex24/7&#8242; and I tend not to take that person as seriously.  In the same way I would avoid someone with an AV name or appearance obviously meant to cause offense or call attention to themselves &#8211; why risk drama?  That&#8217;s what prejudice is in either world &#8211; you make judgement calls about all people with some characteristic based on your previous experience of a few people with that characteristic.  I don&#8217;t like it, but I do it, I think because I know the person *did* choose that name, unlike RL factors that are out of people&#8217;s control.</p>
<p>As to the modeling, watching two friends of mine struggle with the same thing, I came away with the impression that the way to succeed in SL modeling is to be friends with the store or agency owner, or pay money to go to one of the schools that claims they will place you.  Freelance modeling takes a huge time commitment and is not often successful, from what I saw.  I would think that if your friend *is* a nice person, in the end she wasn&#8217;t discriminated against b/c of the numbers, but rather she lost out to people who play the game better or are more connected (just like RL too).</p>
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		<title>By: Cajsa Lilliehook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cajsa Lilliehook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often wonder about the poor people who choose the name Ruth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often wonder about the poor people who choose the name Ruth.</p>
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